ETX-60AT & ETX-70AT USER FEEDBACK
This page is for user comments and information specific to the Meade ETX-60AT and ETX-70AT. Additional information on these models is available on the ETX-60AT & ETX-70AT Announcements page. Comments on accessories and feedback items appropriate to other ETX models are posted on other pages. If you have any comments, suggestions, questions or answers to questions posed here, e-mail them to me and I'll post them. Please use an appropriate Subject Line on your message. Thanks.
Subject: EXT-70AT or is it? Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 19:10:18 From: email@example.com (bdecorso) I finally broken down and purchased an entry-level telescope at what seemed like a reasonable price. Now the fellow at Natural Wonders seemed fairly knowledgeable and told me this was a new telescope. The Meade site seems to confirm that. Now the question, is there any difference between the EXT-70AT and the EXT-70EC??? The box says AT while the bottom of the scope and the manual says EC??? Is this a repackaging of an old scope that didn't sell? Thanks. BenMike here: You are the second person to report a -70EC in -70AT wrappings. Exactly what is going on is unclear right now.
Subject: Confused about ETX-70AT/EC/improvements Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 07:38:34 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Kyle Barger) Hello... just wanting a little clarification if anybody can give it. Everybody is talking about the ETX-70AT. I took the plunge & bought an ETX-70EC at Natural Wonders. It is a single box packaged with the Autostar controller and the ETX OTA, fork, and drive (as opposed to the telescope and autostar packed separately). Is this the same OTA as the "old" 70AT? What are the "vast improvements" referred to by Pat Duffy? I wonder if there's a new model coming out at similar price if I should just take this one back? Or is this the "new" model"? (For those who were asking about availability of these, the manager at Natural Wonders told me they had been very pupular for Father's Day, so I assume they have been selling them there since at least the beginning of June.)Mike here: Haven't heard of an ETX-70EC model. So I can't tell you what is different about it from the -70AT model.
My bad! The *BOX* itself says ETX-70AT. The manual inside, and the Autostar setting, say ETX-70EC. (The manual covers the use of the manual-control handbox, which is not included in favor of the Autostar.) I would still be interested to hear any differences/improvements between the EC & AT, other than the fact that that AT includes the Autostar as standard. And I'd still like to try the darn thing out! Cloudy every night so far.Mike here: Thanks for the clarification. It sounds like a marketing change. EC models don't include the Autostar but the AT models.
Subject: Is your finder scope the scopetronix one? Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 14:56:50 From: NasaHead@aol.com Is the finder scope on your ETX a scopetronix light sight one? If it is, do you think that it would fit on the front of the ETX-70at telescope? Scott WarrenMike here: I review the Scopetronix LightSight "Red Dot" Finder on the Accessories - Finderscopes page. It would likely fit the ETX-70AT but I don't know for sure.
Subject: etx-70at at natural wonders Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 09:09:26 From: NasaHead@aol.com Hello, its Scott. I went to natural wonders yesterday and they were having a sale on the etx-70. Something like ten% off or something. Unfortunately, there was only one left and it was the one on display. The store worker told me that they had a hard time holding on to these scopes because they were so popular among amateurs, (obviously). But I noticed that the AUTOSTAR that came with it was the same as the one that comes with the 90 and 125 models. It wasn't the new controller that MEADE has in all its new pictures. Is this normal? It had the same 12,000 database as the others. Scott WarrenMike here: This sounds like it might have been the original ETX-70AT with an Autostar.
Subject: question about etx-60at (for message board) Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 11:11:08 From: NasaHead@aol.com Do you or any message board member know if the etx-60at comes with a 2x barlow like its sister? Input is welcome. Scott WarrenAnd:
This is another pertaining question. Do you know what all the 60 etx comes with? (i.e., the kind of eyepieces, etc.)Mike here: See the description on Meade's web site: www.meade.com/catalog/etx60-70/index.html I think what is included is there.
Subject: Question on the etx 60-at Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 13:19:00 From: NasaHead@aol.com First, I would like to commend you on the great site you have set up and second, I have a question. Do you or anyone on your message board have a clue as to how much the etx 60-at costs? I ask because I thinking of getting one in a couple months time and I need, and would like to know the price of it. Any input would be great. Scott WarrenMike here: The ETX-60AT and ETX-70AT will retail for "approximately $299 and $349, respectively."
Hi again, its Scott. Sorry to bother you again but, would you know if the "new" etxes come with finderscopes or not? Because in all of the MEADE pics that I have seen, there was no clear view of the finderscope area like on the original etx. Thanks for any input.Mike here: Sure doesn't appear to include one as standard. The #827 8 x 25mm Right-Angle Viewfinder is listed as an optional accessory.
Subject: ETX-60AT & ETX-70AT USER FEEDBACK Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:23:43 From: email@example.com (Pat Duffy) First off, thanks for the informative site. I decided to buy a decent, inexpensive telescope to explore the hobby, and your site gave me a wealth of information that I couldn't find anywhere else. So, upon all my research, I have decided to buy an ETX-70AT. Would prefer a 90, but trying to keep a 500 cap on this just in case it is not for me. I noticed the postings on the ETX-70, saying that these scopes were already available and people had purchased them, and was hoping someone could tell me where exactly they found it. I have called every local store, and spent hours searching online, and not a single company I have found carries anything but the 90 and 125. Where are people finding this scope?? Thanks, Pat firstname.lastname@example.orgUpdate:
To partially answer my question, I talked to someone at a San Antonio based telescope store. There was an ETX70 that was released before in limited quantities, and the currently advertised ETX-70 and the 60 will be available in July with vast improvements over the original 70.
Subject: ETX 70AT, first impressions Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 19:44:00 From: email@example.com (Marty Carungay) Great site you got there! This is my first time posting/commenting. I just read the thread regarding the NEW EXT Astro 70AT telescope. There seems to be a lot of confusion on what this beast is. For the past couple months, I put off the purchase of the ETX 90EC primarily because of the price. I am on a tight budget, and a very part time amateur at that. In other words, I didnt have $700-800 to spend for a new ETX with tripod, case, lenses, etc. Suddenly I saw the Meade web site advertise the new ETX 70AT! Since I work in Irvine (the city where Meade is located in California), I spoke to a local Meade representative. I found out that the ETX 70AT is indeed a brand new model not to be confused with some older ETX 70mm. The main difference is: 1) The ETX 70AT is a newly released (or re-released?) model that includes Autostar controller standard out of the box. Hence the AT designation. It will be sold alongside its smaller cheapo sibling, the ETX 60AT www.meade.com/catalog/etx60-70/index.html 2) According to Meade, this model was meant for the smaller resellers such as Natural Wonders, Discovery Store, etc. This is an entry-level ETX, and hence it will be sold where first time stargazers will buy from. 3) Natural Wonders was selling this for $349 (telescope only, no tripod, to tabletop stand). IMHO, it was a great deal, so I picked one up. 4) A quick call to Meade confirmed that Meade has planned a NEW model #882 Standard Field Tripod "exclusively" for the 60AT and 70AT models. I saw the picture and it seems like a cheaper lightweight counterpart to the standard ETX Deluxe Field Tripod. However, the Meade rep says that there is no reason why you cannot use the same #883 ETX Deluxe Field Tripod (same one sold for ETX 90EC). 5) It has been cloudy here lately, I cant give a good field report of this scope just yet. Give me a few days. 6) Subtle differences? The ETX 70AT seems to use the same ETX tube assemby as the ETX 90EC, but the aperture is obviously smaller at 70mm for the 70AT. The lens is an achromatic refractor but this is not the same optics as the ETX90EC Maksutov-Cassegrain! For people who would rather spend a couple hundred dollars more to get the Maksutov-Cassegrain optics, THIS IS A MAJOR CONSIDERATION when you cannot decide between a $349 70AT or a $599 90EC. Personally, the 70mm optics of the 70AT is more than plenty for my needs. I'm the kind of amateur who thinks that if my scope can even spot the rings of saturn in my lifetime, then the scope has already paid for itself. The included Autostar makes this a fantastic and super-affordable telescope for beginners. When I get around to it, I'd be more than happy to give a full review along with screenshots of the actual 70AT chassis, the scope's performance (i.e. what it can see, how well it can see things in the sky, and what it cannot see very well). Since I am normally a Mac user, I am aware that I have to resort to an alternative astro software like Starry Night rather than go with Meade's own PC-only astro software. No big loss. Thanks for a great site! Marty Carungay
Subject: ETX-70AT Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:27:58 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (neil berkeley) Hello and thank you for a most insightful and informative site,It is always so great to see someone give up so much time and effort for others and sharing knowledge because they can. Im very interested in purchasing a ETX-70AT I have read great things about this scope. I have never owned a telescope and feel this is a good starter piece. If you think i would be better suited with a better unit please write back with your personal recommendation. Thankyou again Neil Miami fl.Mike here: Glad you like the site. I have only limited experience with the ETX-70AT (spent one night with it along with several scopes). I have some brief comments about it at: http://www.weasner.com/etx/etx-nexstar.html There is also some info on the ETX-60AT, ETX-70AT Feedback page. Whether the -70AT or the -90EC or the -125EC or some other telescope will be best for you really depends upon what you want to do with it. You may find that you quickly grow out of a small scope like the -70AT or -90EC. On the other hand, it may fit you perfectly. Certainly the -90 models have been very popular over the last four years.
Subject: adventures in photo interpretation... Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 21:29:28 From: email@example.com (richard seymour) Or: Meade introduces the MeadeStar 60 and 70! Take a close look at the photo of the new Meades... www.meade.com/catalog/etx60-70/index2.html Notice something? The controller plugs into the *fork*... not the -base-! No hard rotational Azimuth limit! (betcha, betcha...) Other noted differences: only -one- additional connector on the fork. (plus power jack). No electric focusser listed as an option. I suspect (and page www.meade.com/catalog/etx60-70/index.html says so) that the on-fork connector -is- the rs232 port. Lots of sneaky improvements buried in there... --dick (dizzy enough as it is)And:
a 3x barlow is listed in the accessories...
Subject: Re: ETX-70AT. Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 06:11:54 From: firstname.lastname@example.org.McMaster.CA (Clive Gibbons) Did you read the Business Wire announcement from Meade? It covered two items- first, the plant expansion in Mexico, with the second being (quoted directly from the press release), "The company also announced the introduction of two new telescopes-- the ETX-60AT and ETX-70AT." So, the question remains... does Meade know they're already selling the ETX-70AT?!? :) :) :) (Please note the smilies, Mike. I'm sure that someone at Meade knows what they're doing... it's just seems funny when their left hand apparently doesn't know what their right hand is up to!
). Cheers, Clive.
Subject: ETX-70AT. Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 10:48:25 From: email@example.com.McMaster.CA (Clive Gibbons) I noticed the copy of Meade's latest press release on your website and have seen it posted elsewhere. What puzzles me is Meade's "introduction of two new telescopes", one of them being the ETX-70AT. Do you know if this is a new version of the ETX-70, or is Meade blissfully unaware that they've already been selling it for many months? ;) Thanks! Clive Gibbons Technician, McMaster University, School of Geography and Geology.Mike here: I don't think they are "announcing" the -70AT but rather announcing the doubling of the Mexico plant size.
Subject: etx-70 Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2000 10:14:51 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (John M. Patterson) i'm seeing etx-70s on eBay for under $200. now i know that as a scope it's no where near as sweet as the etx 90s, but what do you think if the etx 70s can be had for so cheap? a goto scope for $160?? maybe i'll grab one and get back to you on it... cheers, johnMike here: It is a nice 70mm refractor. Good for some objects.
Subject: 70-AT question Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2000 12:58:40 From: email@example.com (Robert Van Den Huevel) Mike, do you know if the ETX-70-AT fork mount (with Autostar, EC, etc) can be used by a standard ETX-90 tube assembly? I might be able to get a 70AT for around $250, complete, so this is tempting me. Thanks Robert Van den HeuvelMike here: Don't know for sure. The -70AT forks might be a little taller than the -90EC forks. And you'd need to use the left and right tube adapters from the -90 and I don't know if they would work on the -70AT forks. If you try, let us know the results.
Cool. Thanks. Say, how much should a 70-AT cost, with the autostar, slow-mo, etc? I think it comes with an AutoStar...Mike here: I've seen prices from $450-599, with and without the Autostar.
hoo-boy, then if I manage to get one for $250 I will be stylin'. But without knowing if the refractor can be changed out for the ETX-90RA OTA.... it is a risk better not to :-) Thanks!
Subject: ETX-70 Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 14:39:57 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (William Michaelis) HELLO I AM LOOKING FOR A TRIPOD FOR THIS TELESOPE WHICH I AM TOLD JUST CAME OUT LAST YEAR CAN YOU HELP ME DENNISMike here: Many tripods including sturdy photographic ones will work. See the Accessories - Tripods page.
Subject: Re: Telescope question Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 10:34:32 From: PhelandL@aol.com Thank you very much. I got it at their auction site for $450.00. It has already shipped but I can return it. Thanks so much
Subject: Telescope question Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 21:27:30 From: PhelandL@aol.com Sharper image has a Meade 70mm digital electronic telescope for $450 on the auction. It says it comes with a 70mm refractive optical system with a 350mm focal length. Electronic Control System, Super Plossi 200mm eyepiece. has a 2x barlow lens and a MA 9mm eyepiece and an internal optical mirror for 90 deg viewing and includes fork mount for tablletop viewing. I can't find any place that says this is good deal or bad deal. Any comment or suggestions for the same price range? Thank you Pheland LucasMike here: Could it be an ETX-70AT? Photo further down this page.
No I don't think so. If you could go to www.sharperimage.com. It is in the optics section. Thanks. I just don't know if thats a good price.Mike here again: Just looked at the Sharper Image page. Sure looks like an ETX-70AT, although it is called something else. Meade markets under different model names/numbers for different markets. Some options (like eyepieces) may be different on different models of the same scope. For that price ($599) I think you'd be happier with an ETX-90EC (more aperture, longer focal length).
Subject: ETX70-EC Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 13:03:40 From: Mdfour@aol.com I was recently given a Meade ETX70-EC for a gift. Though I had my eye on the ETX90-EC, this one was much more affordable. I have not actually used it (received yesterday) but I have made a few phone calls for accessories and no one has seem to have heard of it. Was this possibly a model made by Meade only for certain department stores? Am I going to have difficulty getting accessories? Thanks for any help you can give me.Mike here: Meade has different consumer models for different markets. You should be able to get eyepieces, barlow lens, filters, etc. for any telescope.
Subject: Etx-70at problems!! Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 15:08:09 From: email@example.com (Josh Sanner) My wife bought me the 70at for Xmas. This is my first scope, so I'm very new to astronomy. I'm having a problem getting the scope to focus. The only way that the focus will come in, is to raise the eyepiece in the eyepiece holder, until it is almost totally dislodged from the holder. I'm I doing something wrong? Or is there a problem with my scope? If you can help, I would be very appreciative. Sincerely, Josh
Subj: ETX 70-AT for $380? Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 16:11:14 From: firstname.lastname@example.org I received one of the Walmart import 60mm scopes for Xmas and am returning for something which works. I am an economically-disadvantaged college student looking for my first scope and money is a big issue. They had the ETX-70 AT with autostar clearanced for $380, but is it worth it? I enjoy astronomy and viewing the heavens, but must spend wisely. Any info would be great. Thanks.Mike here: All I know about using the ETX-70AT is on my report.
Subject: ETX-70AT Astro Telescope with Electronic Controller Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 19:35:34 From: email@example.com (lclaborn) I received this telescope for Christmas and really want to use it. I find the tracking seems to be working well and is fairly easy to operate. However, I cannot get the focus right. I have not been able to focus the telescope on anything that is identifiable near or far. I have tried resetting the focus knob as instructed in trouble shooting but that did not work either. Any suggestions?
Subject: ETX 70RA Sent: Friday, November 5, 1999 19:58:42 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Casey Barr) Is this a good starter telescope, or should I save my pennies and go for the 90?Mike here: I presume you mean the ETX-70AT. I've only spent a short time using one. You might want to read that report.
Mike here: On Friday, 1 October, I had a chance to use an ETX-70AT. There is a short report available.
Subject: ETX 70 Sent: Friday, October 1, 1999 18:04:33 From: email@example.com (Gary) I saw the 70 in the latest Sharper Image Catalog. Either their prices were misprints, or they've gone a bit crazy - bascially, they're charging the same $599 as for the 90, and the Autostar was also high, i think around $199 - it did appear to be the ETX Autostar. Generally, I've seen the ETX Autostar for $149 ($199 at Damark - boo, hiss) and the baby autostar for about $99 - perhaps Sharper Image will price match if anyone brings in literature from JC Penny or Service Merchandise. Happy slewing, Gary
Subject: ETX-70AT Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 20:19:49 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Wayne Gatschet) I was in Wal-Mart today and picked up a flyer of the Meade scopes they sell. In the Flyer was a picture, blurb, and specs for the ETX-70AT Refractor scope. Here's the specs, and picture from the flyer. Specs: ETX-70AT Short version. Includes multi-coated achromatic refractor optial tube assembly: (D=70mm (2.76"); F=330mm f/5). Internal flip mirror. #495 Autostar 1586-objects. SP20mm and MA9mm eyepieces, 1.25", and 2X Achromatic Barlow.
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