DS MODELS USER FEEDBACK
This page is for user comments and information specific to the Meade DS telescope models. Accessories and Feedback items appropriate to the ETX models are posted on other pages as appropriate. If you have any comments, suggestions, questions or answers to questions posed here, e-mail them to me and I'll post them. Please use an appropriate Subject Line on your message. Thanks.
Subject: ETX info Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 20:06:29 From: BBRAUNSKI@aol.com Hi: I dropped you a line the other day and you helped me out with some info. I just thought I'd pass along some info to you. Service Merchendise has a sale going on now until 12/9 on their telescopes. The EXT-60AT and the DS-114EC along with some smaller units are $50 off the standard price. You can buy on-line or at the store. I picked up the ETX for my children. Thanks again for your help. Bob
Subject: Re: Meade 4504 Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 00:39:11 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (John Heffernan) Mike, Thanks for the reply. you mentioned digital cameras at the end. I have a Fuji Finepix 1200 (USB only sadly so i wont be able to make use of the adapter!), but I was wondering, do you know of a way to attach it to the 4504? (it has a moving zoom lens and does have an LCD screen.) Thanks, JohnMike here: See the Accessories - Astrophotography page for some camera adapters.
Subject: Meade 4504 Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 05:19:01 From: email@example.com (John Heffernan) Great Site. Just a note to say that the DS assembly instructions are on Meade's web site (or at least the 4500 series are and they are similar (ish)) By the way, I have a couple of questions, if thats OK : I have a 4504 with the autostar thingy on it. - Does anyone know where I can get manual controls (knobs etc) for it? - Can anyone recommend a finder scope that is better that the stock item (preferably one that fits in the stock brackets (ie same external diameter) - Thinking about buying the MH50 eyepiece (2"), will it fit my 4504 (it came with the 1.25" eyepiece mount NOT the .96")? is it worth buying? - Does anyone know where I can get a non-warranty-nulling ready-made Mac cable for the autostar motor control. I have plans for making it but it will kill my warranty!! Thanks, Keep up with the great site...` John HeffernanMike here: You can make a cable using the instructions on the Autostar Information page or you can buy an adapter. Many digital cameras that have serial capability come with the adapter for the Mac.
Thanks for the quick reply! I will check the page and maybe buy an adapter. If I can verify the pin-outs I might get the soldering iron out and make up a cable.
Subject: lost instructions Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2000 13:40:15 From: JnfrDnldsn@aol.com i am in a situation that probably seems simple to most but, is still in need of a solution. I purchased a ds-114 last feb. or so and have since been divorced and moved twice and in the process have lost all paperwork that was included with the scope. where can i find the setup instructions ? now that i am in a more conducive situation, i am anxious to get started asap, but this does not appear to be a " wing it " type of assembly. any suggestions ? i purchased it at a wally world in a different state and no longer have the receipt to prove purchase. thanks firstname.lastname@example.org (please reply to email@example.com) if feasible joplin MOMike here: Unfortunately, Meade has not posted the DS models manuals on their web site.
Subject: Model 4504 Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2000 06:12:13 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Evan Sutton) Im really enjoying this site and I apreciate the format (less fluff more stuff). I love those Ford telescope from Steve Bedair, although I would have gone with a Chevy if I could have. And what the heck is John Yeh doing with his 4504?? Heres my story: Ive had my eye open for a telescope for some years. (never looked through anything more than opra binoculars at the baseball game up till now). I had never really trusted Carl's star count (billions and billions? yea right.) and kinda wanted to see for myself. The wife almost forked out $350 on a 80mm something in "The Nature Store" a few months back just to shut me up but we held off. Then I was in Costco and saw the [in]famous 4504 for $200. Did some checking on the web etc., found nothing near as cool looking for even twice the price so bang, I bought it. It came with 3 eypieces 4.5, 12 & 25 (I think, and Im sure its those darned puny .96 ones, although Ive heard its not the size but how you use them.) a barlow (really long), a cd thats still in the envelope, and the autostar goto thingy, and a video. I put it all together in about 45 minutes, spent about 15 more looking at that piece of felt and scratching my head (the wife was shaking her head and rolling her eyes), popped off that do-hicky on the star end (amid much chuckling from wife) and booked out to the back yard. I used an ac adapter in lue of batteries fired up the autostar, which fortunately gave me some good advise about not looking at the sun (which gave me some other ideas for alternate uses). The bad new is I dont think I can see Polaris from my back yard so polar alignment may not be too acurate, but I did atempt an initialization and it seemed to point to the general area of Vega and Altair on request but I couldnt find any black holes. A few weeks later the moon made it to my back yard and that was quite impressive. Even the wife went from eye rollin to jaw droppin. Lots of craters and ridges, but no cheese. About a month later I was comming out of the Safeway and noticed a big ol star up there much brighter than the others. I went home and checked out the 'planatarium' on the comptons interactive encyclopedia cd that came with my computer (the mead cd is still in the case) and found that whatever the star was it seemed mighty close to Jupiter. A little time lapse magic showed that it would be over my backyard about 2 in the morning. So bang, Im up at 0200 (I couldnt be sure but I think the wife was rolling her eyes even though they were shut) I set the modest 4505 up w/ the 25mm and shazam.. Jupiter, complete with bandy-cloud things and moons! Wow. All these years Ive been walking under these same stars but tonight, wow.. So I put in the 12mm and gues what? wow again.., fuzzier but bigger. So im thinking should I go 4 mm? which of coarse I do. And hmmm... ocasionally clear but mostly fuzzy, big I think. But whats this? It keeps moving, from this side of the eypeice to that. But no problem, i shift the autostar down into low and I cruise right along with it. wow... Now remembering that compton said Saturn was nearby, i Shift back up to 3rd or fourth and haul butt over to this other not-quite-so bright star, plop in the 25 mm, focus... and WOW... small, but with rings and all. So I say the wife has to see this, I drag her out of bed and guess what she says? 'you mean thats a planet?' then 'Wow...' The next night the wife opted to stay in bed so I had to get jr. up to keep me company. Jr was mildly impressed, but he's mildly impressed with passing gass in the bathtub too so... Anyhow, the moral of my story is this: If you have been curios about all those different lights up in the sky, like watching the discovery channel, have a impressionable young-un that might be squandering his impressionability on poke-mon, or a spouse who likes to roll their eyes up but never new what they was a rolling towards, and you have a spare $200 then run, dont walk to wherever you can to get this non-acromatic-.91mm eypiece having, plastic trim sporting jem of an instrument and maybe you too might be doing the 2 am backyard jaw drop dance with me! And Mike, rock on with this web site. -Evan Sutton
Subject: 4504 telescope from costco. Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 01:01:43 From: Jake.Andreou@iclmc.com (Andreou, Jake (MC)) Just a note about what I've found about the 4504 bundle. Its based on last years 4500 series telescope - Newtonian reflector (NOT the DS-114EC - achromatic reflector). It comes with an autostar goto unit (not sure if it has a connector for a PC) on an equatorial mount, and the PC software (Star Navigator). However there is some confusion as to whether they come with 1.25 or 0.96 eyepieces. The bundle is only available until X-mas or stocks last. Please follow the link below for more info. But at £235 (UK p) or $249 (US d) from Costco its a bargain for a beginner like me. In the uk Costco has a £35 money off voucher next month and I can't argue with that. www.scsastro.co.uk/it020006.htm Just a quick beginners question - is a Newtonian reflector the same as an achromatic reflector? Thanks for the great site, Jake AndreouMike here: Thanks for the info. I assume that "achromatic" means without color in this instance. Newtonian telescopes are normally "achromatic".
Subject: Microflexing Meade 4.5" mirror Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:27:38 From: email@example.com (Hung-Wei Yeh) I've just created a page on how to microflex the 4.5" mirror in my Meade 4504 scope. There is a noticeable difference when I push the scope to 300x. You can find out how at: http://members.home.net/wmaphoto/microflx.htm I also created page on Meade 4504 modifications for people that bought the Costco special scope. http://members.home.net/wmaphoto/4504mod.htm John Yeh
Subject: DS-114EC Sent: Monday, October 9, 2000 12:41:29 From: Scott.Eklund@PSS.Boeing.com (Eklund, Scott C) I just purchased a DS-114EC from Costco and found that it had the 0.96 eyepieces. I understand that several other kits sold have the 1.25 eyepieces. Is there a way to adapt it or change it? If it can be adapted, is it going to be worse off than if I had a 1.25 equipped model? Thank you, Scott EklundMike here: There are converters available. I bought the Celestron "Expanding Bushing" (reviewed on the Accessories - Eyepieces page) to use some 0.965" eyepieces with my ETX. There are converters that go the other way too.
Subject: DS-127EC vs ETX-90EC Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2000 19:42:49 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Razak) I currently owned DS-70 and I have been thinking of buying a larger scope. Could you give me the difference of image (say, Andromeda Galaxy) seen through DS-127EC vs ETX-90EC.Mike here: I can't speak from experience since I don't have a DS-127EC but since it is an f/8 1020mm telescope with a larger aperture than the ETX-90EC (f/13.8 1250mm), the image will be brighter but smaller in the DS-127EC when used with the same eyepiece.
Subject: Costco special Sent: Friday, September 8, 2000 10:48:55 From: email@example.com (Hung-Wei Yeh) I purchased the Meade DS4504 from my local Costco for $199 (they had a 1 week only $50 off coupon deal). I figured that w/ the GOTO system and 4.5" Newtonian, I can't go too wrong w/ this deal as a first scope. I've since upgraded the scope w/ eyepieces, 2x barlow, coolpix push on adapter, 10x50 finder, red dot finder from www.scopetronix.com and the free 2" to 1.25" eyepiece adapter from meade. Last night I took some pictures of Jupiter and Saturn with the this scope using my coolpix 990 on macro timer mode. Here are the images. I cropped them and did some minor level adjustments in photoshop. John YehMike here: What is the DS4505? Is that the same as the DS-115EC?
It is almost the same as DS-114EC, but w/ a GOTO equatorial mount. DS-114EC has a alt-azm mount. I don't know what eye piece the DS-114EC comes w/. the costco unit comes w/ .965 eye pieces, in 25, 15, 6 mm. They are all junk. Also the finder is also junk.
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