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Last updated: 31 December 2002
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Subject:	1.25" Eyepieces
Sent:	Sunday, December 29, 2002 17:50:39
From:	Dubljay@aol.com
I have a Meade DS-114AT Scope and I've heard alot of people mention that
the eyepieces are really bad, I've had a problem seeing everything but
the moon clearly so my eyepieces may be the problem, can you recommend a
good set of eyepieces and the sizes I might be looking to buy, Thanks!
Mike here: Not having a DS-114AT I can't comment on the views. As to eyepieces, keep in mind the formulae for magnification and determining the maximum theoretical magnification (see the FAQ page if you are unsure about these).
Subject:	DS 114AT
Sent:	Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:45:24
From:	turbinedvr@msn.com (ROB MCCONKEY)
I just received the Meade DS 114 AT telescope for Christmas and was
wondering is there a web site for people with the DS model telescopes? 
I am a very green astronomer and would appreciate any help in getting
the most out of my DS 114 AT telescope.  A quick beginners review of
this scope has me thinking mixed reviews.  I have only used it for two
nights and on the first night using the 25mm eve piece I saw Saturn and
her rings.  On my second night of viewing I saw Saturn again and also
Jupiter.  I could see the bands around the planet, I was impressed.  The
GOTO function I found gets you in the ball park of an object.  I am
going to purchase the electric focuser because trying to focus manually
on an object is an emotionally trying experience.  I will give you
updated reviews of my telescope as I gain experience with it.  Anyone
with a DS 114AT telescope is welcome to email me with suggestions on how
to get the most out of this telescope.

RNMCCONKEY@Yahoo.com
Thanks Robert
Mike here: I have a DS feedback section as well as some tips and other stuff appropriate to DS models on this ETX web site. There is DS discussion group on Yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meade-ds/.
Subject:	Meade DS114ATE
Sent:	Friday, December 27, 2002 13:50:10
From:	Richard.Ullrich@cw.com (Richard Ullrich)
I was searching for Model Meade DS114ATE and cannot find any information
about it or it's existence. We just purchased it from Sam's Club. It
seemed to be a good price and an up to date model.  All I see on the
internet is the DS2114ATS.  Do you know the differences and if mine was
discontinued (and why).

Thanks,
 Rich
Mike here: Sorry, I don't know that much about the DS telescopes. Check out the Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meade-ds/

And:

Thanks for the lead, take care.
Rich

Subject:	re: 0.96 to 1.25 adpater
Sent:	Monday, December 23, 2002 8:29:18
From:	rseymour@wolfenet.com (Richard Seymour)
To:	rayloft1@earthlink.net
IF you call Meade, they will send (for FREE!) an adapter
for your telescope... 

800-626-3323

But you don't want a 0.96 to 1.25 adpater... the 114 can hold
2" eyepieces... you want MEade's  1.25 adapter for the 114eq.
(it's merely a plastic "pipe" with a bigger hole)

You remove the current adapter and drop in the new one.

have fun
--dick

Subject:	re: MEADE Electronic Telescope Model:114EQ.DH
Sent:	Monday, December 23, 2002 8:25:36
From:	rseymour@wolfenet.com (Richard Seymour)
To:	XJaeRod@aol.com
Don't panic...

The 114eq-dh is equivalent to the model 4504,
and there is a very helpful egroup dedicated to those scopes:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Meade4504Telescopes/

Among other things, they have links to an on-line Meade training video,
(that's an 85 megabyte download)  and copies of the manual.
Those are accessible under:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Meade4504Telescopes/links/Manuals_001004320540/

But as a very short answer: the end with the eyepiece (little tube)
is the end you point at the sky.. the light enters that big end,
goes to the other end, reflects off the large mirror,
 comes back to the eyepiece end, 
bounces off the tilted mirror and hits the eyepiece.
You look through the eyepiece.

Meade's website has the manual for the non-electric telescope:
http://www.meade.com/manuals/m4500/index.html
and "How Telescopes Work" at:
http://www.meade.com/support/telewrk.html

good luck
--dick

Subject:	MEADE Electronic Telescope Model:114EQ.DH
Sent:	Saturday, December 21, 2002 22:06:33
From:	XJaeRod@aol.com
I CANT SEE NOTHING. IS THERE A CAP ON BOTH ENDS OR NOT. I BOUGHT IT FOR MY
SON.  SO GO EASY ON ME.  I COULD ALSO USE SOME INSTRUCTIONS. THANKS.
Mike here: Have you read the instruction manual? Typically telescopes come with a cover over the aperture and sometimes with a cover in the eyepiece hole. Both have to be removed and an eyepiece inserted into the eyepiece hole. Play with the telescope during the daylight hours; using a distant building or tree learn how to focus what you see through the eyepiece. If you have several eyepieces, start with the longest focal length one (i.e., the largest number on the side, like 25mm).
Subject:	Question
Sent:	Saturday, December 21, 2002 21:15:35
From:	rayloft1@earthlink.net (Ray M. Fernandez)
I read through your site to see if someone had asked this question
before but didn't see anything on it.  I have a Newtonian telescope. 
Meade DS-114 [it doesn't specify model anywhere on the telescope,
however it does have digital capabilities, and the D=114mm F=910mm f/8]

Anyhow, I'll get on with my question.  The size of the original lenses
is .96mm.  With the 12.5 as well as the 25mm, I see very well and have
had some success viewing different planets and such.  I wanted to see if
I could increase magnification, so I purchased some lenses made by Meade
[a 4mm, and a 6mm, as well as a Barlow.  The problem occurred when I
realized they where a different size than the ones my telescope uses. 
The new lenses where 1.25, not .96.  I found an image corrector that was
.96 tube, but fit the 1.25 lenses.  "Great," I thought.  The only
problem is I can't seem to actually view anything with them.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.  Is it beyond the telescope's viewing
capabilities?  Please help.

Ray M. Fernandez
Mike here: You need a 0.96 to 1.25 adapter. Orion Telescopes and Binoculars sells them.
Subject:	Re: DS-2114
Sent:	Saturday, December 21, 2002 0:43:08
From:	bart.peeters-ketele@pandora.be (Bart Peeters)
Thank you for your quick reply.  [further down this page]
As it seemed to be a really defective mounting arm, my dealer aleready
replaced it with a new one.
Bart
Mortsel
Belgium

Subject:	Meade Electronic Eyepiece
Sent:	Wednesday, December 18, 2002 19:31:54
From:	ypark@styler.com (Youngjin Park)
Hello, I am sorry if I bother you. I hope not.
I just purchased DS-60AT at BJ's today but I am wondering if this
supports Meade Electronic Eyepiece which can view on TV or computer. It
is very critical for me on my purpose. But I can not find where I can
buy it and if it is good for my DS-60AT. I will appreciate you so much
if you can give me any advice. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Youngjin Park
Mike here: The electronic eyepiece should work with just about any telescope. Meade dealers carry it. Orion Telescopes and Binoculars have a similar model and also a color model.
Subject:	DS-2114
Sent:	Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:11:21
From:	bart.peeters-ketele@pandora.be (Bart Peeters)
I bought 2 days ago a MEADE DS-2114 Reflector. 

Since the last 2  nights here in Belgium were not ideal for observing
(clouds and rainy) I was very anxious  to start observing tonight while
a very clear starry sky. However my enthousiasm turned into desperacy
after a while, when the automatic vertical steering stopped working!
(Horizontal steering is OK)

I can hear the motor is working, but no movement of the telescope
anymore. Can you help me with this problem? Do I have to bring my
telescope back to the dealer or is there a simple explanation, to be
fixed by myself?

I'm really very dissappointed at this moment and would like to start
looking at the sky very soon!

Youre help is very wellcome!
Bart P
Mortsel (near Antwerp)
Belgium
Mike here: I don't have a DS telescope so can't answer specifically. Could you have overtightened the axis lock? Is the problem only when doing GOTOs? Can you slew it manually using the up/down arrow keys?
Subject:	Meade DS 80 AT versus ETX-70 AT
Sent:	Thursday, December 12, 2002 14:08:53
From:	weyhenmeyer1@llnl.gov (Constanze Weyhenmeyer)
I am a total novice when it comes to telescopes, but I would like to buy
one for Christmas. The telescope that I am looking for should be equally
useful for terrestrial AND some celestial viewing. After some basic
research I narrowed down my choice to two telescopes that seem to be
most appropriate - Meade DS 80 AT (the Costco version) or the ETX-70 AT.
 Now my question is which of the two is better suited for terrestrial
viewing and for mounting a camera for taking pictures of terrestrial
objects? Or, can you think of any other telescope in the price range of
200-300$ that might be better suited for this purpose? I don't believe
that I need a lot of fancy computer controlled features, but wouldn't
mind gazing at the stars occasionally.............

I truly appreciate your advice since I feel a bit lost in the Telescope
'jungle'.

Thanks for your help - CONNIE

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Constanze E. Weyhenmeyer, Ph.D.
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Center for Accelerator Mass Spectrometry
Mike here: Since the DS-80AT is now a discontinued model I had to look at an older Meade catalog. From your research you have probably noticed two obvious differences: the mount and the focal length. The mount probably won't have much affect on how you use the telescope but the focal length will. So, you need to decide whether the short focal length of the ETX-70AT (350mm) yielding nice wide field views or the longer focal length of the DS-80AT (900mm), which yield higher magnifications with better results. However, since both telescopes are 80mm apertures you will be limited to a theoretical maximum magnification of about 150X. Both telescopes can do some types of photography with the proper accessories.
Subject:	My DS2114 Page
Sent:	Thursday, December 12, 2002 7:39:01
From:	rob@thegeakes.co.uk (Robert Geake)
I am currently building a meade ds site for all those ds owners:

http://robert.thegeakes.co.uk/astro/

Baitingly

Rob

      Robert Geake MySQL Perl Web Programming 

Subject:	DS-114 EP upgrade, How much is too much?
Sent:	Tuesday, December 3, 2002 10:08:44
From:	jnichols@uccdive.com (James Nichols)
I am considering upgrading the eyepieces on my sons Meade DS-114ATE. As
you know, it is a cheap telescope (I paid $229.00 at BJ's with the
electric eyepiece). I ordered the 1.25" adapter, and I wanted to upgrade
the eyepieces, considering Meade super plossl 4000 series. I wanted to
know if it was money wasted. By that I mean would such a cheap telescope
benefit from upgrading to the best (may not be the best). Any comments
on this a well as what other type of EP's (manufacturer)would be
appreciated. Also let me know what 2 sized Ep's you would get. I was
thinking of the 25mm and 9mm with a 2x Barlow. I am also considering a
electric focuser, any experience with these on the DS series.

Thanks in advance for your input. 
Jim Nichols 
Mike here: Check the Accessory Reviews - Eyepieces page for some alternative suggestions on eyepieces. Since I don't have the DS models I can't address whether higher eyepieces would be wasted or not.
Subject:	ATS...ATE...What's the difference?
Sent:	Sunday, December 1, 2002 20:28:45
From:	jsbooz@comcast.net (Joseph Booz)
My husband and I are thinking of buying a Meade DS114ATE from SAM's
club.  In all my web searching I have not been able to find this model. 
I have found the ATS though.  Is there a difference?  If so what, and
what do you think of the ATE model as a first telescope?
Thanks, Sherry
Mike here: I couldn't find any info on the ATE model in the Meade catalogs. It may a "market-specific" model for the discount chains. The DS line can make a fine first instrument, as long as it meets your expectations.
Subject:	re:   Questin
Sent:	Saturday, November 30, 2002 23:10:25
From:	rseymour@wolfenet.com (Richard Seymour)
To:	rluck@juno.com
> A local store has a ds-2130-at  other store ds-2130-ats
>    what is the difference???

I am not 100% sure, but i think the ATS "S" means "Short"

The optics are different (shorter focal length main mirror,
and a Barlow lens built into the focuser) to achieve 
roughly the same performance in a shorter tube length.

The Meade-DS Yahoo group would be a good place to ask this.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meade-ds/

have fun
--dick

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