Last updated: 30 November 2001
Subject: RE: 105 ETX or 90 ETX?? Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 21:53:37 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Adam Wasserman) How do the views through the 105 compare with the 90? Are they noticeably and markedly better than the 90? The write-ups on your website seem to give the thumbs up on planetary views, but how about deep-sky objects? Bottom line: is it worth the extra $200? FWIW, I have an Celestron 8" SC, but want something more convenient yet satisfying. Thank you, Adam WassermanMike here: I've only briefly looked through the ETX-105EC at the First Annual Mighty ETX Star Party. You can see my comments there. As to a comparison, we'll have to wait for more reports.
Subject: 105 ETX or 90 ETX?? Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 15:39:31 From: CEADAMS@VNET.NET (Chris Adams) Your site is great. It has a lot of great info. Since this is my first (and maybe only telescope) I was hoping to get your opinion on which telescope to buy. Based on my budget, I can either get the 90ETX with Autostar and a few other accessories or the 105ETX only. I'm leaning toward the 105 because of the larger aperture, but the 90 with the Autostar seems to be a good idea too. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks ChrisMike here: Either scope makes a fine first (and only) instrument. However, the -90 is slightly more portable than the -105. So, besides the cost and aperture differences, you need to decide what amount of portability is important to you. And whether you will take the time to really learn the night sky or will want the Autostar to locate objects for you.
Subject: ETX 105 EC Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2001 19:04:06 From: KDX20096@aol.com I received my 105 in sept of this year.The scope is a work of art.The quality is very good on this scope.I have the autostar and 883 deluxe tripod.I would like to say that I have not had one bit of trouble with this scope or autostar.It is version 22eh.The target object is always in the eyepiece.It tracks perfectly.The planets are very breathtaking.The moon is amazing.I have the meade s.w. 18mm and meade sp4000 15mm .These are my favorite two eyepieces.The 15 with the barlow is just really upclose and clear .I was really impressed with this view of the moon. I started out with the ETX70AT ..But I was not satisfied.so I traded it in for the ETX90EC.It arrived defective.The declination motor went out after one hours use.Sent it back and traded up to the 105 and have been happy with it ever since .Just thought I would write to you and give you some feedback on the 105 it being new and all. Also your site is a wealth of information. Thank you Clear skies...Mark from Ohio.
Subject: First Light with ETX-105 EC Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 0:32:08 From: email@example.com (Tony Bonanno) Received my ETX-105 EC today and a Scopetronix delux tripod mount. I've never used an ETX before. After fighting the clouds, finally got some clear sky. Oberving site is at about 7000 feet approx 10 miles NE of Santa Fe, New Mexico. Unpacked everything, reset my Autostar from my LX90 to the ETX (there is no ETX 105 in my Autostar software, so I called Meade and they said just to use the setting for ETX 125). I reset the focal length to 1470, etc. and calibrated and trained drives. During the drive training I was quite distressed to hear a lot of noise coming from the DEC axis. Figured something was wrong. Two friends came over with their ETX's (a 90 EC and a 60) - I noticed both of them were noisy also. The targeting accuracy was quite good using the 26 mm eyepiece. Optics and star test looked good, but not perfect. Out of focus star test pattern may have had a hint of spherical abberation. High power airy disks were pretty classic, but diffraction ring very slightly skewed suggesting collimation could be a little better. Moonlight washed out most DSO's. Double-double easily split at around 100x with nice airy disks and plenty of dark sky between pairs. Objects like the double cluster in Perseus look very nice in this scope - pinpoint stars to edge of field. Saturn quite low in sky, but still able to make out banding on planet's disk and glimpses of cassini division. I'm conflicted about this scope.... and dissappointed. I really like the idea of a small, portable scope with good optics and the Autostar. I can certainly live with the optics on this scope. I'm not sure I can live with the loud "racheting" noise coming from the DEC axis. Currently I have 4 OTA's/mounts not including the ETX. I've never had to endure such a noisy, irritating racket coming from a mount in my life. It is very evident when slewing at slow speeds, but the worse part is the constant noise while tracking. Maybe other ETX owners don't mind, but one of the real attactions of observing the night sky for me is the "tranquility" which is pretty much wiped out by the mount noise. For this reason alone, I'll probably try to return the scope to the dealer. Other minor problems are a sticky, rough focusing mechanism and a right angle finderscope that I constantly bump my head against when using short focal length eyepeices. I had heard that the mount for the ETX 105 EC was specially designed and improved for this scope and that is one reason I decided to buy it. I have an 8" LX90 and I'm very pleased with the mount and performance of that scope. It is smooth, accurate, and very quiet except when slewing at high speed. I was hoping that the new ETX 105 EC would be in the same league (my dealer actually suggested that the ETX 105 mount was "more like an LX90"), but my sample clearly is not. If this is an improved mount for the ETX series, I'd hate to see what ETX owners were putting up with before. I haven't totally given up on this scope yet.... this was only my first evening with it... we'll see.... All for now, Tony BonannoMike here: In my short experience with the ETX-105EC at the First Annual Mighty ETX Star Party I don't recall hearing any DEC drive noise that shouldn't be there. And what sound there was was pretty quiet.
It may be normal Mike, not having had any experience with the ETX. As I noted, the other two ETX's also made similar noise. I guess I was hoping that the 105 was more like the LX90. I may be spoiled. I live in an area that is pretty quiet, so there is nothing to mask out noise and the tracking sounds were prettydistracting... to me anyway. Cheers, Tony
Subject: New ETX Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 14:11:28 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (C. B. Dane) I was surprised to find that you have not yet linked to Meade's announcement of the new ETX-105, an intermediate aperture between the 90 and the 125. I was first slightly perplexed that this incremental step makes sense in terms of a new product. Upon further thought, however, my 125 is just a bit too large for airline carry-on. Perhaps the modest increase in light gathering from the 90 to 105 aperture (36%) while maintaining good portability could be useful. Check out: www.meade.com/catalog/etx105ec/index.html bd -- C. Brent Dane email@example.com Brent's R/C Electronics Page http://www.cliftech.com/Mike here: I'm surprised that you haven't read the Mighty ETX Site Announcement that was available while I was traveling, saying that Site updates would be delayed... ;)
Subject: Meade ETX-105EC Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 06:43:07 From: Pierre.Henrotay@skynet.be (Pierre Henrotay) Meade's Web site now presents the new ETX-105EC (www.meade.com/catalog/etx105ec/index.html). Another section for your lovely web site to be planned soon ! Pierre
Subject: object library in new 105 EC Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 15:01:30 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Clay Sherrod) To: email@example.com (Richard Seymour) Dick - what do you know about the limitations set forth in the Meade promotional info concerning the new 105 EC....it uses the #497 Autostar, but as described in the clip below it has the "old" pre-v2.13Ek memory of just over 13,000 objects.....is this merely a misprint or oversight in the Meade marketing frenzy? Clay --------------attachment: ".......You can computerize the ETX-105EC for a veritable pittance by adding an Autostar computer. The Autostar gives the 105EC full go-to capabilities that can automatically take you to >>>>14,487 near and deep space objects and give you a more than a megabyte of information about those objects, as well<<<<<<< . Objects include all of the Messier objects; all of the IC, NGC, and Caldwell catalog objects; 943 double, variable, and SAO catalog stars; the planets; 26 of the brightest asteroids; 15 periodic comets; 50 earth-orbiting satellites; the centroids of all 88 constellations; plus user-defined objects and guided sky tours....."
Subject: Altitude Axis Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 21:40:25 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Blais Klucznik) Page 25 of the now ETX90/105/125 Instruction Manual on Meade's site does state that the 125's Altitude bearing is now of the ball-bearing type and not of Acetal as in previously released ETX125s. Blais Klucznik email@example.com
Subject: Yet another new Meade ETX - The ETX 105EC Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 16:55:56 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Kevin Berg) Saw this on the Astronomics web site - $695.Mike here: Yep, it is new. See Meade's site for more info (Product Catalog).
Subject: ETX-105 Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 22:32:26 From: email@example.com (Brent Powell) I was on the phone today with Meade Customer Support getting yet another set of motors to replace some for our DS-70 that are now grinding. I asked the rep if they were planning to release any new or updated ETX models. He told me to wait just a moment, and then came back to tell me that they are preparing to release an ETX-105, and that some dealers are already taking pre-sales orders for them. Have you heard anything about this? Thanks, BrentMike here: Just got the word this week. Meade seems to always release a new model when I'm traveling! But I don't have any details; I haven't checked their web site for news.
Subject: Lets make a deal! Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:49:28 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Bob Shutan) It's time for a new category on your web site. The all new, ETX-105EC will be in stock at Shutan within the next week. Priced at just $700, this 4.13-inch aperture ETX fills the void between the 90EC and 125EC. The ETX-105EC uses an all-new fork mount specifically designed for this telescope. Meade will also be coming out with dew shields for all ETX's in the near future. Watch our web site for more specifications and pictures any day now. Sincerely, Bob Shutan Shutan Camera & Video www.shutan.com
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