Last updated: 30 November 2006
This page is for user comments and information specific to the Meade DS telescope models. Accessories and Feedback items appropriate to the ETX models are posted on other pages as appropriate. If you have any comments, suggestions, questions or answers to questions posed here, e-mail them to me and I'll post them. Please use an appropriate Subject Line on your message. Thanks.
Subject: ds-2102 or ds 2130at Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 09:16:53 From: kotsaftis xristos (firstname.lastname@example.org) Great site. Very useful and informative. Between the ds2130at and the ds2102, I'd greatly appreciate your comments on which you'd recommend for a beginner. Thanks.Chris.Mike here: I have no experience with the DS models but see the DS Feedback page (current and in the Feedback Archives) as well as the Helpful Information: User Observations page for some guidance on the DS models.
Subject: choices Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 19:50:38 From: benny vedder (email@example.com) Hi I am buying a telescope and have the choice between the Etx 70AT and the DS 2130 ATS LNT. I have read alot on the site but still am not sure. The DS does have a 127mm appeture and level north ( the latter of which im not sure how valuable it is) but does it have frustrating problems in eg.setup, ease of use that the 70 AT dosen't have or vice versa apparantly collimation could be a problem with the DS 2130 as well as focusing. The DS is actually $50 cheaper and I was wondering why, with such a larger appeture.....I am just really beggining but with more than a little knowledge of things due to reading so much on the net....so what would you or anyone else recommend I do??? The site has been Helpful Thankyou ...Ben , AustraliaMike here: First, please read the Email Etiquette on the ETX Site Home Page; your message was originally deleted UNREAD as SPAM due to the ambiguous subject line. If you haven't done so, read my ETX-70 report on the Helpful Information: Buyer/New User Tips page as well as the various user reports on the Helpful Information: User Observations page. The telescopes you have in mind are completely different in aperture and focal length. One (the ETX-70) makes a fine wide field instrument whereas you will see more details compared with the ETX-70 with the DS-2130.
Subject: [none] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 00:03:53 From: larry p (firstname.lastname@example.org) Where on earth can i find a 15volt adapter for my 114EQ -DH4, I don`t have a manual for it.I heard they don`t sell them any more what can i do... if i could power it through my truck cig. lighter i could live with that. Do you have any ideas?????Mike here: First off, PLEASE read the Email Etiquette item on the ETX Site Home Page; your message was originally deleted UNREAD as SPAM due to the missing subject line. Thanks for understanding.
Subject: dsx-90 or ds 2102at-tc Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 06:21:18 From: Bruce Dunham (email@example.com) Great site. Very useful and informative. Between the dsx-90 and the ds 2102at-tc, I'd greatly appreciate your comments on which you'd recommend for a beginner. The ds 2102at-tc appears to be a Costco exclusive. It's a refractor, 102mm, f/7.7. They both sell for about the same price, and both come with the Autostar 497. From what I've learned through research, the ds appears to be a more powerful telescope with a more flexible f value, but might also have chromatic abberation issues. On the other side, I've read numerous positive comments and reviews about the dsx-90. Thanks for your help.Mike here: You can read some comments on the Helpful Information: User Observations page about the DSX and some DS models. Keep in mind that the DSX-90 has a longer focal length.
Thanks Mike for your speedy reply. I looked at the user observations on the DS models and, unfortunately, that didn't clear anything up for me. Would you recommend one over the other, and would you indicate why? Again, your imput is much appreciated!Mike here: Lets back up a step. Before deciding on a telescope model you need to decide just HOW you plan to use it. For example: What do you want to see? What are your expectations for what you WILL be able to see? Do you want to do astrophotography? Is portability important?
Well, actually, I picked up the dsx-90 and tried it on the moon and a star this morning, and although the view was clean, clear, and crisp, I'm a concerned I won't be able to see deep space objects or even Mars, e.g., with as much detail as I'd like (I live just outside of Houston with a fair amount of light pollution). My telescope budget has a limit, and I've read numerous articles on choosing a first telescope in which many of the experts suggest a 6-8 inch dob as a good starter telescope. I saw a 6 inch dob from Orion for about 270 online, but it doesn't have the Autostar, GOTO, automatic tracking, etc. I'm probably going to search a bit more in that direction to try to find a good deal (maybe something around that price with some bells and whistles), and I'm starting to lean in that direction since everyone says you get the most aperture for the money with a reflector and recommend a size of at least 6 inches. I guess the 200 Sams deal I got on the dsx-90 made it seem worth a test drive. Thanks again for your time and imput.Mike here: Yes, aperture is important and generally you should get the most aperture you can afford AND will use. The best telescope is the one that gets used, not the one that ends up in the closet because it doesn't meet your expectations or is too cumbersome to set up or to use. If you are willing to learn your way around the night sky then a Dob is an excellent choice but adding motorized tracking and GOTO capabilities will usually add more cost. Decisions, decisions, decisions!
Amen! Thanks Mike.
Subject: which is the better choice, a DS2102 or ETX80 Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 10:00:19 From: Richard Handley (firstname.lastname@example.org) I am new to astronomy, I have decided to buy for my first telescope either the DS2102 or the ETX80. One of my local shops recommends the DS2102 highly (they do seem to be the only ones in the UK selling them) saying the ETX80 is a toy and I will be disappointed with it, however, it seems that I can find very little information on the DS2102 (I can't even find it on the US Meade website, the Europe website is mainly in German) and every website I come across raves on about how good ETXs are. I would prefer an ETX90 or bigger, but until I am completely sure I get the bug, I am reluctant to spend the extra money (I would rather upgrade it later) Like the website - the most useful one I have come across by far - and I have looked at loads in the last few weeks. Thanks in advance if you can give me any pointers. RichardMike here: Both telescopes are fine for what they can do. The ETX-80 makes a fine wide field instrument. I suspect the DS model you mention has a larger aperture and a longer focal length, meaning it will perform better for the Moon, the planets, and deep sky objects.
Thanks for your opinion, based on this I think I will be buying the DS2102. The spec on the shops website ( http://www.telescopehouse.co.uk/page.aspx?theLang=001lngdef&pointerid= 349E3C147A924E3295D6F2DBE149469E&action=lnk ) certainly seems to confirm with what you say. Would you be concerned that Meade have no information on the website about it? do they often do this sort of thing. Many thanks RichardMike here: Different models get sold in different markets and products get discontinued. I suspect this model comes under one of those scenarios. One final thing to consider: you should decide just what you want to do with the telescope so that you will not be disappointed when you actually use it. For example, if you just want to be a casual observer, this DS model will be fine. If you want to get into serious astrophotography this model will come up short. Finally, don't expect to see Hubble Space Telescope quality views through any small telescope. In fact, don't expect to see the same details through the telescope as you see in photographs.
I did know that I won't see anything as clear as in books, on the web etc. I just like the idea of being able to looks for myself rather than looking at a PC screen. If I do get the bug then I will upgrade to something more powerfull - I am really looking for a toe in the water. As a matter of interest - what would you choose as a starter scope if you were in position? (with a budget of around $500) Thanks RichardMike here: Remember, I started this Site using the Meade ETX. When I purchased it (the original model ETX, now known as the ETX-90RA, which didn't have all the capabilities of the current models) it was $495. It was a fine "starter" telescope as well as one that satisfied my more advanced requirements since I had been an amateur astronomer (with a degree in Astrophysics) for several decades.
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