Last updated: 16 September 2005
Subject: Re: Autostar - Envisage Com Port problems (success) Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 09:49:22 From: Dave Wilson (Ziggy2@comcast.net) I decided to go the 'network' route and I think I've got everything working (ha). I think I got the info from your site. You are correct. The documentation is really poor. They should never let people who develop an application write the docs. They just take too much for granted. You've been a big help and I just wanted to say "thanks". I might have some questions about the DSI camera at a later time but you've done enough for now. Dave
Subject: Autostar - Envisage Com Port problems Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:29:43 From: Dave Wilson (Ziggy2@comcast.net) I wish I didn't have to come to you with a 'computer' problem but I don't know where else to turn. Hardware: 8" LX200GPS / DSI Pro / HP ZD8000 Laptop / Dynex USB/Serial adapter (all new) Software: Autostar Suite with the latest update (3.01) This is what is happening: I am able to identify the Com Port where the adapter is attached to the Laptop. (I can also change it if necessary) I open Autostar Suite and goto Telescope/Communications/Comport Setup and set the Com port to the one used by the USB adapter above. I then goto Telescope/Protocol and select 'via comm port'. I get the 'Warning - Warning - Warning' message..... (so far, so good) I goto the Telescope/Control Panel and I have control of the scope but there is a slight delay in starting and stopping. I goto Telescope/Protocol/Remote Handbox, try to connect, and get the message "Error: Port already in use or not present" (This is the PROBLEM. I want the Remote Handbox to work. And...... "Aaaaaaah!" sometimes it has. It worked the first time. And then a second time after I removed and reloaded Autostar Suite. When it works it's very smooth and does not have the delay I feel in the Control Panel.) Also, while in Autostar Suite if I goto Image/DSI imaging/telescope I get the message "unable to open comX", BUT if I close Autostar Suite and open Envisage as a separate program I have NO problem connecting to the active port. Computers......!!! I know I love them...........:) Thank you Sir, for any help you can provide. David WilsonMike here: In order for multiple apps to use the same serial port you need to enable networking for the Autostar Suite. See the articles "Network Server Capability" and "Autostar Suite on a Macintosh" on the Helpful Information: Autostar Info page on my ETX Site.
Thanks for your speedy reply. I've done more searching on the net am starting to get a better understanding of what is going on. I didn't realize they were separate applications. I thought they all worked together. I'm too tired to do anything now but with some luck I should have things working tomorrow. Thanks again.. DaveMike here: Yes, they are separate apps; I address that design flaw in my writeup on using the Suite on the Mac OS X article.
Subject: Re: Latest Autostar Suite Update Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2005 23:44:38 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (email@example.com) I read the info on Drizzle, but am looking for the User Manual for Envisage. Since that's now the default app for imaging, the LPI User Manual isn't much use. Also, there's no "Help" tab available in Envisage as there was for the LPI app. I found the LPI program is still available in the Autostar Suite directory and can be run separately, but the convenience of linking to it directly from the Suite is gone. I'll probably reinstall the original version of the Suite, along with the 12/04 update. Regards, Mike HoganAnd:
From: Stephen Bird (firstname.lastname@example.org) Yes, this became a problem when the DSI PRO software (with Drizzle) was introduced. The standard DSI software did not suffer from loss of the magic eye focus for the LPI. Until Meade becomes aware and fixes it, you can use the Autostar LPI option from the start group: Start All Programs Meade Autostar LPI Or there is a simpler workaround, and that is to set up a shortcut on your desktop. All you need to do is to locate the LPI.exe file and create a shortcut on your desktop to it. For XP users, go to My Computer, then find c:/program files/ meade/autostarsuite/lpi/lpi.exe Then right click the LPI.exe file and choose "Create Shortcut". Then drag and drop the shortcut to "Desktop". This will put an icon on your desktop that will take you straight to the LPI software without having to go via Autostar suite, although you can still have autostar suite itself open in another window of course, and use the other modules such as . The process is similar for Windows 2000, and I have tested the "fix" on both. Afraid I don't run Windows 98 anymore so can't say whether it fixes 98. As to use of Drizzle with the LPI, I'm not sure if it would work, I can't see why not though. And the advanced features of the Envisage software do allow two tracking boxes that take out field rotation for poorly aligned polar mode and alt-az mode apparently, so the features are nice to have. As to the manuals, I gathered them all together, taking them off the CD's and any useful ones from the Meade web pages, and put them in the Meade start group where they are easily accessed. Meade eh! Don't you just love them, two steps forward and one step back!! Regards Stephen BirdAnd:
Stephen, Thanks very much for your input. I had already found the stand alone LPI program and set up a shortcut, but my reply to Mike Weasner was too late to make it into his site update. In your search for Manuals, did you find one for Envisage? I found some stuff on the Drizzle technology, but nothing that describes use of the new tabs and fields in the program and there is no "Help" option in the program. I don't have a DSI, but am guessing there is a CD that ships with it that includes a User Manual, similar to the Manual for the LPI that is on the Autostar Suite CD that came with my LPI. As far as Meade, it seems they have the same problem as many other companies - they have to constantly introduce something "New and Improved", otherwise they're not "progressive". Whatever happened to the philosopy of "If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It"? Regards, Mike HoganMike here: Or at least give users ALL the info on new features!
Subject: Latest Autostar Suite Update Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2005 23:00:17 From: Mike Hogan (email@example.com) What is the purpose of the latest Autostar Suite Update? From the title, it appears that it is supposed to provide some additional functionality for the DSI and LPI imagers but now when I select Image>LPI Imaging, it defaults to the new "Envisage" application with "Drizzle". From what I can find on the Meade site, this is primarily for use with the DSI and no mention is made of the LPI except it can be used simultaneously with one or more DSI's for some functions I don't need or quite understand. I don't have a DSI, and had learned the LPI application but am now befuddled. There is no "help" option in the new function so I'm kind of lost. I was able to get a live image with the LPI, but the "Magic Eye Focus" aid is blank. I suppose DSI users are somewhat familiar with the new function, but us folks with just a "cheap" LPI apparently were overlooked by Meade engineers when they decided to integrate upgrades into the Suite. It's like when they designed the PE series and overlooked the fact that an LPI could not be correctly installed in it. Enough ranting for now. Regards, Mike HoganMike here: I haven't installed the update yet since it requires Windows and I rarely use Windows on my Macintosh. But there is a PDF on the Drizzle technology on the Autostar Suite Update page.
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