Subject: ETX refrito... Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 13:54:52 From: email@example.com (richard seymour) Well, in a way, it had to happen sometime... My ETX90/ec fried itself and my Autostar last week. Yours might, too. In five years or so... The cause was a metal part of the Azimuth/RA clamp gradually abrading the wires leading to the Alt/Dec motors. If finally wore through two of the wires, then casued the damage by short- circuiting them together. I was informed of the problem by a Motor Unit Fault message during a Polar [goto], the Autostar faded to black, and it was accompanied by the Az axis continuing to spin until i killed power. After that the Autostar (nor the hand controller) could not make the Alt axis move. Due to the short circuit, that testing with hand controller also fried the hand controller's Alt driver. My -particular- ETX90 was perhaps more prone to this due to the way the wires fed out from the center of the RA clamp screw.. they were canted away from the connector they were going to, hence had to make a turn and head down to get there. Across the moving metal piece. When the base of the ETX90 is in place, the battery compartment presses down on the wires, contributing to the problem. When the cover is removed. they don't show as touching the metal. Here's a photo (from Jordan Blessing's ETX Tune Up page) of the area:
The round thick-washer-like object at the top of the shaft (just under the four fragile wires...) is what did the deed. It has a rough sharpish edge which chewed through the insulation. It was the blue and black wires which were cut/shorted. Testing after the fact showed that it probably blew the receivers in the Autostar which listen to the encoders, as well as the Autostar's I2C bus clock driver for the Alt axis. If i moved the Alt wires to the Az connector, i could command the Alt motors to move. But neither axis reported its position back to the Autostar. Without another 497 Autostar to try (and fry?), i can't tell if -all- the damage is only in the Autostar, or it it's shared with the ETX90. The Autostar could no longer cause a 4504's Alt motor to move. Will it happen to you? I use my ETX90 a LOT... I frequently perform full-travel Az swings (hard-stop to hard-stop) during my indoor testing of the Autostar. I run it in Polar and Alt/Az. I let it track overnight to gauge accuracy of tracking. I run it for hours during the day. My average slew-to-view ratio is far higher than any sane owner's. I wouldn't doubt that i have literally put 3 to 5 years of "moderate" use (mileage?) on it in the 1.3 years i've had it. How to prevent it? The -best- answer would be a thick teflon sleeve over that area of the wires... Teflon to minimize friction, which would minimize wear. Thick to add years to it. Filing the edge of the RA clampnut (for that round part is a nut, internally) so that it's rounded instead of sharp would help. Having the wires come out pointed towards the connector panel would help. Opening it up frequently (this is only my second time inside the base!) and checking for wear would have avoided it (by application of tape). You can esily open your ETX base... (a) remove the batteries (b) carefully peel off the three rubber feet to expose the screws (store the feet on a plastic baggie or window envelope's window to be nice to the sticky). (c) Unscrew the three phillips head screws now exposed. (d) Veeerrryyy carefully lift the base... the wires to the battery compartment are fairly short, and easily broken if you drop the base plate (the other reason for removing the batteries) (e) there's the central shaft... -feel- each wire carefully where it would touch the RA metal, if it were so inclined. The damage is on the -underside- of the wires, so it's impossible to see. (f) carefully wrap those wires with a tape which will survive wear, heat, cold and rubbing. A plastic coiled cable wrapper might work. However, place the base cover back on... feel the "springiness"? That's it pushing on that central wire... so any wrapping you do should NOT be thick enough to make the problem -worse- by becoming pressed hard against the moving parts. (i'm almost considering cutting a hole in my battery compartment to give it more room... but that's "almost") (g) check that the connectors on the back of the HBX/AUX/switch panel are still nice and tightly seated. (h) reassemble carefully. Reapply feet. *carefully* reinstall batteries, being sure to get + ends to match the molded guide. Priority Parcel (air) mailing to Meade, in original packaging with an additional sturdy external carton, (with $600 insurance and notification of receipt) was only $21. It should get there Tuesday... --dick
Return to the top of this page.
Go back to the Tech Tips page.
Go back to the ETX Home Page.