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Subject: etx-80 objective cell compatibility with etx-70/60? Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 17:33:55 From: Mark Hatch (mhatch@ics.com) I know that you can take an etx-70 objective cell and put it on an etx-60 OTA. (They share the same bottom part of the OTA. What about the etx-80? Does it share the same base with the 60/70? MarkMike here: Don't know for certain but I suspect that the OTA is different since the ETX-80 has a longer focal length.
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Thanks for the reply. I got curious because I saw this stock photo at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330399559304&ru=http% 3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3907.m38.l1313% 26_nkw%3D330399559304%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 and it looks like the lens cell was just a 100 mm longer than the 70's. Regards, MarkMike here: There is a difference at the rear of the ETX-80 vs the -70 as well. But I don't know if the objective lens mounting and focus shaft placement is exactly the same or not, or if the focus shaft is even long enough.
Subject: Re: ETX 125 Dec Fault Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2010 02:26:46 From: John Farrant (johnfarrant@gmail.com) Follow up to my dec board woes. I decided to use the encoder assembly from the faulty 125 RA board and connect it to the pic side of the working 90 RA board. This proved easier said than done! However, I managed to cut the four tracks on the 125 board where the encoder leads to its pic using a small twist drill. Cutting the tracks with a knife would have caused a terrible mess. I repeated the same procedure on the 90 board. There are two surface mounted 56 k resistors near the 125 encoder and these I removed as they are duplicated on the 90 board. Next, with a 15 cm length of four strand ribbon cable, I connected the 125s encoder to the 90s pic. I reinstalled the 125 RA board back in place together with the 90 board - hanging at this stage - nearby. With the motor connected, I switched on. Eureka! After a motor test both drives spun into life. My dec fault dissapeared. All that remains is to fixed the 90s RA board securely in place, reroute the encoder leads and extend the motor's cable. I'd like to thank Dick for the circuit information, George Cushing for kindly sending me a replacement DEC board, and your goodself for your encouragement. Best regards, John
Subject: ETX-70 Focus, Lens Cap Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 14:39:59 From: kkennedy8802@charter.net (kkennedy8802@charter.net) I just got a second hand ETX-70.....I have'nt used it yet but in looking it over it seemed the focus knob was very stiff.....it has loosened some but I am wondering how much should it turn?.....all the way around?....it only seems to go about a half turn. Is that right?......Also from your experience does anyone offer a replacement lens cap for this? It did'nt come with one.......Thanks soo much for your help....it is most appreciated......Best regards, Kevin Kennedy (St. Peters, Mo.)Mike here: The ETX-70 focus knob will turn MANY times around when changing focus from one eyepiece to a different eyepiece. So, if you are only getting less than one 360 degree rotation, then the focus shaft is probably binding up someplace. Use caution! It is a real pain to repair/replace. As to a replacement lens cap, try Telescope Warehouse (link on the Astronomy Links page). Alternatively, you can easily make a cap from a cardboard tube or even pieces of flat cardboard. I use the cardboard from the backs of paper pads for many such projects.
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Once again thank you Mike. I'll have to do more checking about the focus knob. It is stiff and I sure don't want to break anything forcing it to turn. Hope I have'nt bought a lemon, sigh. I'll check your webpages more. Thanks again! Kevin
Subject: total disaster with etx 80 Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 15:18:37 From: jeff stonehouse (jeff.stonehouse@ukonline.co.uk) Hello again Mike thanks for your quick reply a few weeks ago,that problem I rectified but I think I have a more serious one now. In trying to get the scope running as well as possible I downloaded what I thought was the latest Autostar Updater version which unfortunately was the 5.9 version and connected to the telescope (etx 80 with #494 handset) with disastrous results,the handset is now completely inoperable but does light up but it won`t initialise. I have trawled through your site trying to find a solution (I think another guy did the same thing recently) but it seems that the 494 handset is what the americans call bricked as its firmware cannot be re-instated by the user. What do you think would be my options, can Meade in the U K repair this unit or would it be a new handset if available.I find it totally frustrating that in this day and age of technology such a stupid thing can happen with this awful meade software but I suppose others may learn from it.Mike here: There is no user-installable update for the #494 AutoStar. It is strange that the ASU app crashed the AutoStar. You have some choices. See the article "AutoStar RESET from Software" on the Helpful Information: AutoStar Info page; you may (or may not) be able to resurrect it. Or contact Meade for a replacement/repair. Or get a new #494, or even better, get a #497 AutoStar.
Subject: ETX 70 does a nose dive ... Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 14:48:01 From: Eldred, Kris - Fresno (keldred@fresnobee.com) My precious ETX 70's tripod leg broke, taking my scope with it as they crashed into the concrete. (I should have taken a photo to share.) The camera assembly is smashed in on left side. Is it worth repairing, or is it time for an upgrade? I've looked online at the 90, 105 and 125. Local dealer has the 105 PE and the 125 selling at about $850 per; I like the smaller 105, but worry that I am shorting myself if I do not consider the 125. Is there a site that shows what I would see in each with the same size eyepiece so I could compare? I know the eyepieces I used for my 70 gave clear images, but they were pretty small. I'm probably ready for clear and a little larger. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. KrisMike here: Not certain what you mean about the "camera assembly" but if the telescope is no longer optically useful, then replacing it is probably a good idea. You can read my comments on the ETX-90, -105, and -125 on the Helpful Information: Buyer/New User Tips page. There are also many user observation reports on the Helpful Information: User Observations page. There are Telescope and Eyepiece simulators on the Buyer/New User Tips page that you may find useful.
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Sorry: The photo port was damaged. I have been checking out your site, just as I did before I bought the 70. I will check out the places you mention. Thanks for the quick response. KrisMike here: Are you using the "photo", or rather, the rear port for anything?
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Sometimes for camera. I plan to take scope out tonight if it's not cloudy to see if anything else is wrong. Flip mirror is loose, but I can glue that if needed and if scope is still good. I can live without taking photos!
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Taped up my little ETX-70 and got it working well enough. Then I thought about calling Meade to see if there was a replacement part I could install. And I needed to know how to fix my tripod. Since the 70 has been discontinued, they offered to replace the scope and tripod with the ETX-80 model/tripod for $165. Seemed like a no-brainer. Some day, I might move up to the big guys! Thanks for the help! Kris
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I looked for 80 info on your site, but figured it can't be much different from a 70, really. A smidge more magnification. And maybe this time I will use the computer!Mike here: There are many ETX-80 user reports on the Helpful Information: User Observations page. Yes, a little more magnification (slightly longer focal length) and a little more light gathering power (slightly larger aperture). As to using a computer, you'll need a #506 serial cable (not easily made) to talk to the AutoStar #494. If you get an AutoStar #497, you can use the #505 serial cable (easily made, using info on the Helpful Information: AutoStar Info page). Also, if your computer does not have a real RS-232 serial port, you'll need a USB-serial adapter. However, not all adapters work reliably with the AutoStar. See the article "AutoStar and USB" on the AutoStar Info page.
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Thanks! Much appreciated.
Subject: ETX 125 Dec Fault Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 14:28:26 From: John Farrant (johnfarrant@gmail.com) My ETX 125 has developed an annoying fault and I was hoping you could help me. In Terrestrial mode, when slewing from, say, alt 0 deg to +5 deg, the scope will overshoot by approx 45 minutes and finish up at 5 deg 45 minutes. This occurs for any upward/downward slew - an error of approx half a degree in the positive/negative direction. In other words the scope is overshooting by half a degree in either altitude direction. Azimuth movement is fine. In Astronomical mode this overshoot still occurs, but then the ota slowly creeps back to where it should be! The overshoot occurs at full speed even if the quiet mode is selected. Tracking and Goto are not affected. The first part of any vertical slew is at normal speed. It is only in the final half degree of error movement that full speed takes over. Obviously I have trained drives, motors etc. PSU is ok - 12v external power source. I've tried the following - all items hijacked from a perfectly working ETX 90:- Replaced the Autostar 497 and cable. Tried 5 software versions from 2.5 through to the latest. Replaced the dec board. Changed the dec motor. Tried a different front panel board. All to no avail. In desperation I swapped the two four pin RA/DEC plugs over. Guess what? Fault goes away. Slewing, for example, to +10 degrees 0 minutes - with the RIGHT key! - and the scope moves UP at normal speed and slows down when near its target - as it should do - finishing up at +10 deg +/-2 minutes. Perfect! Using the up/down keys to move in azimuth again proves ok. In other words, swaping the DEC and RA plugs on the front power board removes the fault. Putting them back where they should be and the fault reappears. I'm at a complete loss. Any thoughts Mike? Best regards, JohnMike here: First, you say the PSU is OK. What amperage is it? Swapping the motor connectors makes it sound like it is not dirty encoders. But the "rubberbanding" you are experiencing sounds like a training issue. I would suggest RESET, CALIBRATE MOTOR, and then TRAIN DRIVES. Be certain to train in both axes. If that fails, reload 4.3Eg (assuming you have a #497 AutoStar and not a #497EP).
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I have just changed the RA board and believe or not, the DEC fault has gone! I really can't understand why a fault in the RA board can affect the DEC board, although no doubt a Meade engineer could explain it. The only problem left is how I'm going to mount the ETX 90 RA board into my 125. It is - unlike the dec board - not identical in size. Providing I can position the optical encoder correctly the rest of can probally go anywhere. There's plenty of room. Wish me luck. I'll keep you posted .. Thanks for your sound advice. Regards, John
Subject: Scopetronix? Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 12:52:48 From: Rick Towns (rick@deepskies.com) I just read an editorial of yours from Oct '07 about the trials and tribulations of Scopetronix. I had ordered a telescope to camera adapter from then in December '09 and I'm not having a lot of luck getting a response out of them. I was wondering if you'd heard any more about their saga? Currently, it looks like they are still in business under the brand Observer's Outlet. The website has an e-mail address and I've tried contacting them through it - no luck so far, however. If you had any further info on them, I'd love to hear it. In the meantime, I'll let you know how I make out! Thanks, Rick Towns Barrie, Ontario, CANADAMike here: That's an older article. You'll find several more recent discussions of Scopetronix on the Editorial Page.
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